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30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Bemerbenz » 19 apr 2008, 18:48

Als je nou echt niet weet of je nu een benzine of een diesel wil, alles heeft zijn voor en tegen, dan helpt deze link je wellicht met het nemen van de goede beslissing (beetje olie op het vuur moet kunnen....)



Onafgebroken de beste tussen 1978 en 1986

<br><br>Post edited by: Bemerbenz, at: 2008/04/19 18:51
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor The White Rider » 19 apr 2008, 19:31

Yep

Dat spreekt voor zich....
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Boy » 19 apr 2008, 21:51

Die test kan niet kloppen omdat zelfs in 1978 die benzine s niet vermeld worden bij de verliezers
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 19 apr 2008, 23:12

boy
ik geloof best dat je veel verstand hebt van diesels .
maar het zou ook nog zo kunnen zijn dat je kennis wat benzine betreft te kort schiet ??
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 00:09

Ik geloof dat de bezitters hier van de M110 het wel eens zijn met mijn stelling dat deze krachtbron wellicht de meest duurzame benzinemotor is die MB ooit heeft gebouwd... :) Ben ervan overtuigd dat als het laatste paneel is doorgerot, mijn M110 nog steeds start en loopt en loopt...
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 00:10

En helaas weet ik dat hedendaagse MB's hooguit in de middenmoot terecht komen....
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 20 apr 2008, 14:07

hallo boy
ik vraag mij af welke benzine auto jij dan beter vind ??
ik rij met onder tussen 2 keer een m110 motor 10 jaar lang 25000 tot 30.000km per jaar naar mijn werk.
de derde keer dat ik weer een auto nodig ben word weer een Mercedes met een m110 motor.
ik drijf echt niet op een rose wolk hoor daar ben ik veel te nuchter voor .
ik persoonlijk zou niet weten welke auto van 30 jaar oud het ook vol zou kunnen houden (buiten misschien een volvo).
ik moet elke morgen om 6 uur naar mijn werk met deze auto geloof maar niet dat ik dan een onbetrouwbare auto wil hebben .
ben benieuwd welke auto je dan nog beter vind die vergelijkbaar is ???
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor alex240diesel » 20 apr 2008, 15:38

Ik rij inmiddels zowel een Benzine M102, wat een fijne motor is, en een diesel 240. Beide draaien als een zonnetje en zullen mij echt niet snel in de steek laten. Denk dat beide krachtbronnen tot de top horen van toendertijd. en misschien nu nog altijd ongeevenaard zijn. We moten alleen niet vergeten dat productie technisch gezien er een hoop is veranderd, waardoor ook de motoren zijn veranderd. Ik denk persoonlijk dat wanneer de motoren van toen met de huidige technieken worden gemaakt ze zelfs nog beter zijn.

De emissie eisen die techenwoordig worden gesteld resulteren mijnsinziens in een onnodig complex apparaat, dat wij nog motor moeten noemen. De simpelheid van de oude beestjes die wij hebben zorgen voor makkelijk onderhoud, niet per definitie voor een technisch onoverwinnelijk systeem. Hou er rekening mee dat de motoren meer dan 30 jaar geleden zijn ontwikkeld en dat ze voor toen toch wel redelijk modern waren.
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 16:40

Alex, helemaal mee eens. Ik durf te stellen dat het oude 1.2tje uit de Kadett-A of B nog sterker is dan de Benz motoren. Waarom? Op een keukentafel te reviseren en loopt met 21 onderdelen. Eenvoud ten top.

Maar qua verfijning en souplesse zijn moderne motoren niet te versmaden. Tot ze stuk gaan. Electronica is de remmer deze jaren, niet het blok zelf. Als je motor stuk gaat, kun je 'm reviseren. Gaat je electronica na 10 jaar flippen, dan is het vaak gedaan.
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 16:44

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 16:45

...En ik weet ook, dat de 2.3 viercilinder motor van Volvo (B21??) de sterkste der sterken is. Uit eigen ervaring, 1 miljoen KM op gas...Eerste blok in een taxi (740GL 2.3i TB-88-TX)... :)
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Holysmoke » 20 apr 2008, 17:09

Die boy toch,

Particulieren met zo n ding stuurde we gelijk het enge buitenbos in.
En dat allemaal door ervaring wijs geworden.
Ik wil dat best allemaal nog een keer vertellen maar dan vroeger op de dag. Ik mag daar s avonds niet over praten omdat het geestelijk te zwaar is en dan slecht slaap.

Ik zou mijn auto toch niet graag bij mensen met dergelijke opvattingen laten repareren oid.
Als het allemaal geestelijk zo zwaar is wat heb je dan op deze site te zoeken vraag ik me dan af.
Maar goed moet kunnen zo is het wel.
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Govert » 20 apr 2008, 19:05

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Govert » 20 apr 2008, 21:29

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor MajikSimon » 20 apr 2008, 22:10

Ik denk dat heel veel merken heel hoge km standen kunnen halen. Vergeet ook niet dat de olie ook veel beter is dan destijds...
De goedkoopste lidl olie van nu is beter dan de meeste oliesoorten destijds.

Er zijn ook zeer veel oude volvo en saab benzines, vw's, peugeot diesels en bmw's met zeer hoge km standen. Feit is natuurlijk wel dat we hier de mb's wel ophemelen. Zo goed als de mensen hier voor hun auto's zorgen...speelt ook erg mee.

Vergeet ook niet dat er ook al heel veel gesneuveld zijn. Er is al een soort selectie geweest de afgelopen 20 jaar want de motoren die net iets minder goed in elkaar gezet werden of koud afgetrapt..die zijn allang omgesmolten.

Iedereen hier moet toch ook wel duidelijk zijn dat de km's weinig zeggen.
Hoe vaak je koud start per dag, hoe lang is het stuk dat je rijd, hoe rijd je koud, hoe onderhoud je de zaak...is veel belangrijker.<br><br>Post edited by: majiksimon, at: 2008/04/20 22:14
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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 22:20

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

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Re:30 Jahre ADAC Pannenstatistik: Jahr 1982

Berichtdoor Roel280€ » 20 apr 2008, 22:43

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